Dr Bridle of Guelph University on Laura Ingraham to discuss if there is a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
Laura: Can the vaccinated be contributing to these variants or is it just the unvaccinated?
Professor: Absolutely it's untrue to be calling this a pandemic of the unvaccinated. In fact I would argue that certainly is the flipping of the message to scare some people into the unvaccinated are driving the variants. This goes against every scientific principle we understood. The reality is the nature of the vaccines we are using right now and the way we are rolling them out are going to be applying the selective pressure of this virus to promote the emergence of new variants. Again this is based on sound principles. You have to look no further than chemotherapy for cancers and the emergence of antibiotic resistance strains of bacteria. The principles are this, if you have a biological entity that's prone to mutation, and the Sars Corona viirus 2 like all corona viruses are prone to mutation- so if you have a biological entity like that and you apply a narrowly selective pressure that is non lethal and you do this over a long period of time this is the recipe for driving the emergence of novel variants and that exactly what we are doing. Our vaccines are focused on a single protein of the virus so it only has to altar one protein and the vaccines don't come close to sterilizing immunity and people who are vaccinated still get infected, it only seems be blunting the disease so what that tells you therefore is these vaccines in the majority of people are applying a non lethal pressure narrowly focused on one protein and of course the vaccine rollout is occurring over a long period of time, that's the recipe for driving variants.
Laura: So that's what's driving the variants?
Professor: Absolutely.
Laura: It's the exact opposite of what they are saying because they are trying to demonize and intimidate those who had chose not to be vaccinated for whatever reason.
Professor: It's ridiculous because the unvaccinated are likely acquiring in pretty substantial numbers naturally acquired immunity which I would argue from a immunological perspective is going to be muc more protective than vaccine induced immunity against novel variants.
Laura: Again something the administration refuses to address head on or accept the idea that you have b or t cell immunity to this ongoing virus and that then you would not need a vaccine, correct?
Professor: Yes, it's shocking to me as an immunologist, basically your are correct, essentially our immune systems actually work. They do respond to pathogens and they do protect us from pathogens and there are published papers, people can look up a paper done by Shetty (probably Priya but they didn't give a first name) and (I think he said Cory or what sounded like Coradi) in the Nature Journal that shows very clearly as do several peer reviewed publications that natural acquired immunity against Sars Corona Virus 2 is very potent, is very long lasting and importantly in the context of novel variants is very broad in its scope so it's very balanced and we're going to have lots of antibody and t cells and the thing is it targets multiple components of the virus.
Laura: So it's not going to target just one protein of the virus?
Professor: Exactly, so that is just it. So variants will occur and they are going to be able to bypass the vaccine induced immunity but those viruses aren't going to be changing all the other components people who naturally responded are protected against.
The interview can be seen in the link below:
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6266738894001#sp=show-clips
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